{"id":53347,"date":"2024-07-05T00:08:57","date_gmt":"2024-07-05T00:08:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/?p=53347"},"modified":"2024-07-05T00:08:57","modified_gmt":"2024-07-05T00:08:57","slug":"nachchiyar-thirumozhi-2-8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/2024\/07\/nachchiyar-thirumozhi-2-8\/","title":{"rendered":"nAchchiyAr thirumozhi &#8211; 2.8 \u2013 vattavAych chiRu thUdhaiyOdu"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>SrI: SrImathE SatakOpAya nama: SrImathE rAmAnujAya nama: SrImadh varavara munayE nama:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/2024\/06\/nachchiyar-thirumozhi\/\">Full series<\/a> &gt;&gt; <a href=\"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/2024\/06\/nachchiyar-thirumozhi-2\/\">Second decad<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/2024\/07\/nachchiyar-thirumozhi-2-7\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"53344\">&lt;&lt; Previous<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>avathArikai (Introduction)<\/strong> \u2013 they tell him \u201cKnow that even if it is sugar candy, if the heart is bitter, that will not taste sweet\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>vattavAych chiRu thUdhaiyOdu siRu suLagum maNalum koNdE<\/em><br><em>ittamA viLaiyAduvOngaLaich chiRRil Idazhiththu en payan<\/em>?<br><em>thottu udaiththu naliyEl kaNdAy sudarch chakkaram kaiyinAl EndhinAy<\/em>!<br><em>kattiyum kaiththAl innAmai aRidhiyEl kadal vaNNanE<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Word-by-Word Meanings<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>sudar chakkaram<\/em> \u2013 radiant sudharSana AzhwAn (divine disc)<br><em>kaiyil EndhinAy<\/em> \u2013 Oh, kaNNapirAn who has donned it on your divine hand!<br><em>kadal vaNNanE<\/em> \u2013 Oh, one who has the complexion of an ocean!<br><em>vatta vAy<\/em> \u2013 having a circular mouth<br><em>siRu thUdhaiyOdu<\/em> \u2013 with a small pot<br><em>siRu suLagum<\/em> \u2013 a toy winnow [<em>muRam<\/em>, in thamizh]<br><em>maNalum koNdu<\/em> \u2013 carrying sand too<br><em>ittamAga<\/em> \u2013 as desired<br><em>viLaiyAduvOngaLai<\/em> \u2013 we, who are playing, our<br><em>siRRilai<\/em> &#8211; toy houses<br><em>Idazhiththu<\/em> \u2013 destroying such that it cannot be of any use again<br><em>enna payan<\/em> \u2013 what is the purpose?<br><em>thottu<\/em> \u2013 touching with the hand and<br><em>udhaiththu<\/em> \u2013 kicking with the leg<br><em>naliyEl kaNdAy<\/em> \u2013 do not oppress<br><em>kaiththAl<\/em> \u2013 if the heart becomes bitter<br><em>kattiyum<\/em> \u2013 even a piece of sugar candy<br><em>innAmai<\/em> \u2013 will not be tasty<br><em>aRidhiyE<\/em> \u2013 don\u2019t you know?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Simple Translation<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oh, kaNNapirAn who is donning the radiant sudharSanAzhwAn [divine disc] on your divine hand! Oh, one who has the complexion of the ocean! Along with a pot, which has a round mouth, and a small winnow, we are bringing sand and playing. What benefit do you get by destroying the sand houses built by us such that it cannot be used again? Do not harass us by touching us with your hands and kicking us. Don\u2019t you know that when the heart is bitter, even candy will not taste sweet?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>vyAkyAnam (Commentary)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>vatta vAy \u2026. enna payan<\/strong> \u2013 Have you seen the peculiarity of these materials? The small pot which has a round mouth, to fill up the sand, the small winnow to separate fine sand from the pot, and the fine sand. See how beautiful they look. We would use these and play happily, with no one to bar us from playing. What benefit would you or anyone else get by destroying the toy houses built by us, completely, such that they cannot be used? Are we at such an age that we could take help from anyone else so that we could prevent you from destroying them? He came close to them asking \u201cCould there be a benefit for a benefit?\u201d, and touched them. They became red-faced in anger and asked him \u201cOh come, dear! We do not know the number of persons whom you touched before coming to us. Could such a person like you, touch us?\u201d He kicked them saying \u201cEven if you scold me, that will not trouble me\u201d. Feeling hurt by that they say<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>thottu udaiththu naliyEl kaNdAy<\/strong> \u2013 do not indulge in mischiefs such as touching us and kicking us. Saying \u201cIf I touch you, does that become sorrowful for you? Am I not ISwaran [controller of everyone]?\u201d just as he showed his cosmic form to arjuna, he manifested his divine form with <em>Sankha<\/em> (divine conch) and <em>chakra<\/em> (divine disc) to them. He tells them \u201cnammAzhwAr had beseeched me saying in <a href=\"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/2018\/05\/thiruvaimozhi-6-9-1-niray-nilanay\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"20555\">thiruvAimozhi 6.9.1<\/a> &#8216;<em>kUrArAzhi veNsangEndhi vArAy<\/em>&#8216; (Oh, you should come, donning the sharp, divine disc and the white, divine conch). Is such a form of mine, bitter to you?\u201d They respond saying \u201cThis argument is specious; don\u2019t you know that if the heart is bitter, even candy will be bitter?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>kattiyum \u2026.. aRidhiyE<\/strong> \u2013 don\u2019t you know that even a piece of sugar candy, if the heart is bitter, will not have sweet taste? With the meaning that he has become like that for them, they say <em>kadal vaNNA<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>kadal vaNNanE<\/strong> \u2013 Isn\u2019t the water of ocean such that it could only be seen, but is unfit to be used for washing one\u2019s face or for drinking? The opinion is that he too has become like that, for them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Next, we will consider the 9<sup>th<\/sup> pAsuram of this decad.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>adiyEn krishNa rAmAnuja dhAsan<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>archived in <a href=\"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\">https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>pramEyam (goal) \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/koyil.org\/\">https:\/\/koyil.org<\/a><br>pramANam (scriptures) \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/granthams.koyil.org\">http:\/\/granthams.koyil.org<\/a><br>pramAthA (preceptors) \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/acharyas.koyil.org\">http:\/\/acharyas.koyil.org<\/a><br>SrIvaishNava education\/kids portal \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/pillai.koyil.org\/\">http:\/\/pillai.koyil.org<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SrI: SrImathE SatakOpAya nama: SrImathE rAmAnujAya nama: SrImadh varavara munayE nama: Full series &gt;&gt; Second decad &lt;&lt; Previous avathArikai (Introduction) \u2013 they tell him \u201cKnow that even if it is sugar candy, if the heart is bitter, that will not taste sweet\u201d vattavAych chiRu thUdhaiyOdu siRu suLagum maNalum koNdEittamA viLaiyAduvOngaLaich chiRRil Idazhiththu en payan?thottu udaiththu &#8230; <a title=\"nAchchiyAr thirumozhi &#8211; 2.8 \u2013 vattavAych chiRu thUdhaiyOdu\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/2024\/07\/nachchiyar-thirumozhi-2-8\/\" aria-label=\"Read more about nAchchiyAr thirumozhi &#8211; 2.8 \u2013 vattavAych chiRu thUdhaiyOdu\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-53347","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mudhalayiram","category-nachchiyar-thirumozhi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53347","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/10"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=53347"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53347\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":53363,"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53347\/revisions\/53363"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=53347"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=53347"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=53347"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}