{"id":52693,"date":"2024-01-21T00:38:20","date_gmt":"2024-01-21T00:38:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/?p=52693"},"modified":"2024-01-21T00:38:21","modified_gmt":"2024-01-21T00:38:21","slug":"thiruchchandha-viruththam-72","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/2024\/01\/thiruchchandha-viruththam-72\/","title":{"rendered":"thiruchchandha viruththam &#8211; pAsuram 72 \u2013 pOdhin mangai"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">SrI: SrImathE SatakOpAya nama: SrImathE rAmAnujAya nama: SrImadh varavara munayE nama:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/2023\/09\/thiruchchandha-viruththam\/\">Full Series<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/2024\/01\/thiruchchandha-viruththam-71\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"52691\">&lt;&lt; Previous<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>avathArikai (Introduction)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some people asked AzhwAr \u201cWe see in this world that some people take refuge under Sivan since he grants mOksham. In SaivAgamam (principles governing temple worship for followers of Siva) and in thAmasa purANams [treatises which praise thAmasic deities], he is called as the supreme entity. When such is the case, how is it correct to say in the previous pAsuram that he is incapable of granting mOksham?\u201d AzhwAr responds saying \u201cvEdhas have the greatness of not having been written by any person and of having permanence. It does not have the deficiencies such as ignorance, confusion, bewilderment etc seen in Agamams which have been written by people. Since these vEdhas have classified Sivan as a jIvAthmA, just as people lie about having seen an apparition in banyan tree, this [saying that Sivan grants mOksham] is also a lie. Deceitful words as written in saivAgamam are also lies only\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>pOdhin mangai bUdhalak kizhaththi dhEvi anRiyum<\/em><br><em>pOdhu thangu nAnmugan magan avan magan solil<\/em><br><em>mAdhu thangu kURanERu adhu Urdhi enRu vEdhanUl<\/em><br><em>OdhuginRadhu uNmai alladhu illai maRRu uraikkilE<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Word-by-Word Meanings<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>pOdhu<\/em> \u2013 the flower lotus<br><em>il<\/em> \u2013 having it as the place of birth<br><em>mangai<\/em> \u2013 periya pirAttiyAr, who is youthful forever<br><em>bUdhalam kizhaththi<\/em> \u2013 bhUmip pirAtti who is the representative deity for worlds such as earth<br><em>dhEvi<\/em> \u2013 are consorts (for sarvESvaran, the lord of all)<br><em>anRiyum<\/em> \u2013 further<br><em>pOdhu<\/em> \u2013 in the divine navel, which is like a lotus flower<br><em>thangu<\/em> \u2013 residing permanently<br><em>nAnmugan<\/em> \u2013 brahmA, who has four faces<br><em>magan<\/em> \u2013 (his) son<br><em>solil<\/em> \u2013 if spoken of (based on statements from vEdhas)<br><em>mAdhu thangu kURan<\/em> \u2013 one who has given half of his body to pArvathi<br><em>ERadhu Urdhi<\/em> \u2013 Sivan, who has bull as his vehicle<br><em>avan magan<\/em> \u2013 is the son of that brahmA<br><em>enRu<\/em> \u2013 like this<br><em>vEdha nUl<\/em> \u2013 SAsthram (sacred text) such as vEdham<br><em>OdhuginRadhE<\/em> \u2013 only that meaning which is conveyed<br><em>uNmai<\/em> \u2013 is the truth<br><em>maRRu<\/em> \u2013 contrary to it<br><em>uraikkil<\/em> \u2013 (using Agama rules) if one tries to say<br><em>alladhu<\/em> \u2013 that, which is contrary to vEdham<br><em>illai<\/em> \u2013 is a lie<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Simple Translation<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SrI dhEvi, who was born in a lotus flower and who is young always, and bhUmi dhEvi, who is regarded as the deity for all the worlds, are consorts of sarvESvaran. Further, brahmA, who resides in the divine navel which looks like a lotus flower, is sarvESvaran\u2019s son. If one were to speak, based on the meanings conveyed in vEdhas, Sivan, who has bull as his vehicle and who has given half of his body to his consort, pArvathi, is the son of that brahmA. This is the truth, as conveyed by SAsthram such as vEdhas. If one tries to say anything contrary to this, it is a lie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>vyAkyAnam (Commentary)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>pOdhil mangai bUdhalak kizhaththi dhEvi<\/strong> \u2013 periya pirAtti (SrI dhEvi) who was born in a lotus flower and SrI bhUmip pirAtti are the consorts of paramAthmA (supreme soul, emperumAn. This is widely known throughout, just as it has been mentioned in SlOkam 2-5 of purusha sUktham which is the essence of all vEdhams &#8220;<em>hrIScha thE lakshmIScha pathnyau<\/em>&#8221; (Oh supreme entity! SrI dhEvi and bhUmi dhEvi are your consorts). Has it not been mentioned in the 4<sup>th<\/sup> SlOkam of SrI sUktham &#8220;<em>padhmE sthithAm padhma varNAm thvAmi iha upahvayE Sriyam<\/em>&#8221; (I beseech you, SrI dhEvi, residing on a lotus flower and having the complexion of a lotus) that periya pirAttiyAr resides on a lotus flower?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>anRiyum<\/strong> \u2013 that he is the consort of periya pirAtti who has all the opulence, is alone sufficient to state that he is superior to everyone else and that he is apt to be attained by everyone. Is there any greater eminence than this, truly?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>anRiyum<\/strong> \u2013 apart from this, other features of emperumAn\u2019s greatness and lowliness of other celestial entities have been shown in vEdhams.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>pOdhu thangu nAnmugan magan<\/strong> \u2013 brahmA, who is also referred to as <em>kamalAsanan<\/em> (one who has lotus as his seat) since he was born in the lotus-like navel of the supreme entity, is his son. <em>vEdhavAkyams<\/em> (phrases from vEdhams) such as mahAbhAratham Santhi parvam 47-56 &#8220;<em>ajasya nAbhAvadhyEkamarpitham yasminnidham viSvam bhuvanamadhiSritham<\/em>\u201d (in the divine navel of parama purushan who is without a birth, a flower blossomed; all these worlds sustain through that flower) and yajur vEdham nrusimhathApinI \u201c<em>sa prajApathirEka<\/em>:<em> pushkaraparNE samabhavath<\/em>\u201d (That brahmA, who is eminent, manifested from the petals of lotus flower) also say this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>avan magan solil mAdhu thangu kURan ERadhUrdhi<\/strong> \u2013 even though there are<em> vEdhavAkyams<\/em> such as &#8220;<em>Eka Eva rudhrO na dhvIthiyAya thasthau<\/em>&#8221; (Only Siva was present; there was no second entity) and \u00a0thaiththirIya upanishath nArAyaNavalli 16 &#8220;<em>sarvO hyEsha rudhra<\/em>:&#8221; (all these [entities] are only rudhra) and even though he is praised as the supreme entity in SaivAgamam etc, when looking at several <em>vEdhavAkyams<\/em> such as in sAmavEdham \u201c<em>brahmaNa<\/em>:<em> puthrAya<\/em> <em>jyEshtAya<\/em>\u201d (for rudhran who is the eldest son of brahmA), it is clear that he is the son of brahmA. Since he has been mentioned as &#8220;<em>mAdhu thangu kURan<\/em>&#8221; (ardhanAri or half-man, half-woman), unlike sanaka et al who were created by brahmA through his mind, rudhra was born through the union with a woman and he is together with a woman. Since he is the first to be born through union with a woman, it is clear that he is a jIvan (soul like all the others). SrI vishNu purANam 1-7-12 says &#8220;<em>bhrukutIkutilAthdhasya lalAtAth krOdhadhIpithAth<\/em> l <em>samuthpannas thadhA rudhrO madhyAhnArkasamaprabha<\/em>: ll <em>ardhanArInaravapu<\/em>:<em> prasaNdO\u2019thiSarIravAn<\/em> ll&#8221; (From the curved forehead of brahmA which was aglow with the fire of anger, rudhra came out with the splendour of sun at noon, having a form composed of half man and half woman, with huge anger and a fat form) while describing the creation of brahmA, confirming that rudhra was created as an<em> ardhanArI<\/em> (half-woman).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The reason for stating <em>ERadhUrdhi<\/em> is to convey rudhran\u2019s pride in having bull as his vehicle as opposed to garuda [emperumAn\u2019s vehicle} who is described by vEdha as <em>vEdhamayan<\/em> (he is full of vEdha).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>enRu vEdha nUl OdhuginRadhu uNmai<\/strong> \u2013 the sayings of vEdham, which is authentic SAsthram, that SrIdhEvi and bhUdhEvi are emperumAn\u2019s consorts, that brahmA is his son and that rudhran is brahmA\u2019s son are all true.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>alladhu illai maRRu uraikkilE<\/strong> \u2013 if an interpretation is given by Agamams or thAmasa purANams, which is contrary to what has been said in vEdham, it can only be a lie. Hasn\u2019t it been said in mahAbhAratham Anu parvam 43-35? &#8220;<em>yaththathpadhmamabhUth pUrvam thathra brahmA vyajAyatha<\/em> l <em>brAhmaNaSchApi sambhUtha<\/em>:<em> Siva ithyavadhAryathAm<\/em> ll <em>SivAth skandhas sambhabhUva Ethath Srushti chathushtayam<\/em> ll&#8221; (From the lotus (emanating from the divine navel of bhagavAn) which was formed earlier, brahmA was born; it is to be known that Sivan was born from brahmA; from Sivan, skandhan was born; These are the (initially formed) four creations)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Next, we will take up the 73<sup>rd<\/sup> pAsuram of this prabandham.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>adiyEn krishNa rAmAnuja dhAsan<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>archived in <a href=\"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\">https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>pramEyam (goal) \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/koyil.org\/\">https:\/\/koyil.org<\/a><br>pramANam (scriptures) \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/granthams.koyil.org\">http:\/\/granthams.koyil.org<\/a><br>pramAthA (preceptors) \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/acharyas.koyil.org\">http:\/\/acharyas.koyil.org<\/a><br>SrIvaishNava education\/kids portal \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/pillai.koyil.org\/\">http:\/\/pillai.koyil.org<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SrI: SrImathE SatakOpAya nama: SrImathE rAmAnujAya nama: SrImadh varavara munayE nama: Full Series &lt;&lt; Previous avathArikai (Introduction) Some people asked AzhwAr \u201cWe see in this world that some people take refuge under Sivan since he grants mOksham. 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