{"id":24677,"date":"2019-02-16T23:40:34","date_gmt":"2019-02-16T23:40:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/?p=24677"},"modified":"2019-02-16T23:40:34","modified_gmt":"2019-02-16T23:40:34","slug":"thirunedunthandakam-11-part-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/2019\/02\/thirunedunthandakam-11-part-3\/","title":{"rendered":"thirunedunthANdakam \u2013 11 \u2013 Part 3 and Conclusion"},"content":{"rendered":"

SrI:\u00a0 SrImathE SatakOpAya nama:\u00a0 SrImathE rAmAnujAya nama:\u00a0 SrImath varavaramunayE nama:<\/p>\n

Full Series<\/a><\/p>\n

<< Previous pAsuram<\/a><\/p>\n

<< Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 krupAmAthra prasannAcharyAr<\/em><\/p>\n

mattuvikki<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span>, etc \u2013 She having such hair <\/span><\/span>of<\/span><\/span> head that would <\/span><\/span>attract and trouble<\/span><\/span> Him, Oh <\/span><\/span>now it is <\/span><\/span>she <\/span><\/span>who <\/span><\/span>is suffering instead of Him. Only in righteous war (Her beauty getting felt in His heart) would He suffer; she got caught in deceitful war (His beauty reaching her heart), says the mother; (Since it was natural union (gAndharva type wedding) He made His beauty reach her heart without letting her beauty get into His heart).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

mattu vikki \u2013 <\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span>mattu \u2013 <\/i><\/span><\/span>honey. It talks about how with great eagerness the beautiful bees got into drinking honey (from the flowers in her hair), and they got hiccup due to great desire for it; it talks about how even after drinking up to the neck its desire for it did not reduce and since there was not enough time for <\/span><\/span>honey<\/span><\/span> to be digested they got hiccup; it talks about how they are having hiccup due to the great taste of that honey; it talks about how the bees <\/span><\/span>are <\/span><\/span>neither<\/span><\/span> able to drink what is in mouth <\/span><\/span>n<\/span><\/span>or spit it out because of its great taste, and so they are keeping it under its tongue; for humans both food and water help sustain life so if they get hiccup due to food they could relieve from it by drinking water; but since bees are named \u201c<\/span><\/span>madhuvratham\u201d<\/i><\/span><\/span> <\/b>as <\/span><\/span>their <\/span><\/span>only food is honey, if they get hiccup due to honey, it can be rectified only with honey or by avoiding honey; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Since it says <\/span><\/span>\u2018pathim viSvasya\u2019 <\/i><\/span><\/span>(He is the lord for all the worlds), a danger that fell upon a devoted wife can only be rectified by the lord and not by other worldly interests.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

maNi vaNdu \u2013 <\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span>(Beautiful bee)<\/span><\/span> <\/b><\/i>Like those who have consumed medicine that protects the body, the bee is being without gray hair, wrinkles, or ageing. It reminds us about Him who is described as \u2018<\/span><\/span>arumbinai alarai<\/i><\/span><\/span> [periya thirumozhi \u2013 7.10.1]\u2019 (bud, blossoming flower (how emperumAn is described as always being young)). As said in \u2018<\/span><\/span>thUviyam puLLudaith theiva vaNdu<\/i><\/span><\/span> [thiruvAimozhi<\/a> \u2013 9.9.4]\u2019 (the divine bee that is having the beautiful garuda bird) the bee that is emperumAn suffers upon seeing her hair in the head \u2013 this bee <\/span><\/span>i<\/span><\/span>s suffering due to drinking excessive honey from her hair reminds <\/span><\/span>about <\/span><\/span>that;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

muralum \u2013 <\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span>As it was excessively happy to drink the honey up to its neck, it is not able to stay in one place and since it cannot call with its mouth, it is buzzing;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

mada mAnai \u2013 <\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span>She who was submissive to me is now not submissive. <\/span><\/span>Or<\/span><\/span> it means, by <\/span><\/span>mada <\/i><\/span><\/span> (<\/span><\/span>madappam<\/i><\/span><\/span>) representing quality of a female, she having such natural quality of women. Even if there is excessive sadness due to separation, she would control that unbeknown<\/span><\/span>st<\/span><\/span> to anyone, and not show any change <\/span><\/span>but<\/span><\/span> make Him change \u2013 such a girl is now asking openly, \u2018Where is emperumAn\u2019s thiruvarangam?\u2019.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

idhu seydhAr thammai \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>Since it is not possible to describe with words the trouble she is undergoing, she is showing by her arm point<\/span><\/span>ing<\/span><\/span> to her situation as \u2018this\u2019, like showing an ocean.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

idhu seydhAr \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>Earlier if I set her hair plait, she would come back without any change to it; now who has made her hairdo to look without any shape <\/span><\/span>or form<\/span><\/span>?, she <\/span><\/span>ask<\/span><\/span>s. Or, who is it that made the bees go empty stomach by drying the flowers in her hair?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

thammai \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>She<\/span><\/span> <\/b>is establishing His greatness <\/span><\/span>based on s<\/span><\/span>eeing the state of her misery; Oh can there be someone having such greatness of putting her into this misery?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

thammai \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>Oh what a greatness this is! <\/span><\/span>What kind of great honey from the hair of noble women (SrI, bhUmi, neeLA) He has drunk and grown so! <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

thammai \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>Oh one who is the big lover who has made her a great role model in being a lover?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

thammai \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>If it is undesirable for her to see her daug<\/span><\/span>hter<\/span><\/span> in this position, she <\/span><\/span>w<\/span><\/span>ould have use<\/span><\/span>d<\/span><\/span> normal words like \u2018he\u2019 when asking who has done this to her. Since the mother <\/span><\/span>likes<\/span><\/span> this <\/span><\/span>result <\/span><\/span>even though it is hard on her daughter, she uses a more respectful word \u2018<\/span><\/span>thammai<\/span><\/span><\/i>\u2019.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

meyyE kattuvichchi sol \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>Tell the truth <\/span><\/span>(<\/span><\/span>o<\/span><\/span>h diviner!)<\/span><\/span>. While the diviner (<\/span><\/span>kattuvichchi<\/span><\/span><\/i>) is well known to be truthful, why say – tell the truth? She says <\/span><\/span>to the diviner –<\/span><\/span> you do not think that it is better to avoid mentioning the person directly since it was a natural union (gAndharva type marriage); it is liked by me; so say it as is. When giving treatment one should know about the disease as is, isn\u2019t it?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

sol ennach chonnAL \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>(I asked her to say and she said) \u2013 The words which have to be asked after serving (an AchAryan) for a long time, I <\/span><\/span>prompted<\/span><\/span> her to say and she said. Like the greatness of emperumAnAr<\/a> and of <\/span><\/span>gIthOpanisha<\/span><\/span>dh<\/span><\/span>AchAryan, <\/span><\/span><\/i>is the greatness of this diviner! <\/span><\/span>udaiyavar<\/span><\/span><\/a><\/i> (out of his kindness) <\/span><\/span>would say the meanings to whoever gave their ears with <\/span><\/span>wish to learn <\/span><\/span>(<\/span><\/span>sevi thAzhththArkkellAm vArththai sollip pOndhAr udaiyavar<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/i>);<\/span><\/span> gIthOpanisha<\/span><\/span>d<\/span><\/span>hAchAryan<\/span><\/span><\/i> created interest in him (arjuna) (through the 18 chapters) and told him the meaning (charma SlOkam).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

sonnAL \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>Like (the pleasantness of) breeze and <\/span><\/span>dew <\/span><\/span>drops, is there a need for any meaning to what she said? Just her <\/span><\/span>saying <\/span><\/span>words were great that <\/span><\/span>they suffice.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

sonnAL \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>Like <\/span><\/span>how <\/span><\/span>it was needed for me to hear, she <\/span><\/span>told<\/span><\/span> like it was needed for her to say. <\/span><\/span>For an AchAryan there is a need for someone (disciple) to hear his words that come out due to overflowing experience after enjoying about emperumAn; disciple shall <\/span><\/span>sustain <\/span><\/span>his life <\/span><\/span>by listening<\/span><\/span>; AchAryan shall sustain his life <\/span><\/span>by saying<\/span><\/span>; the disciple hearing is the reason for his revival; for AchAryan, saying is the reason for his experience.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

nangAy \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>(mother addressing a woman who came to inquire) – You are having the completeness of not considering other gods and wordly matters, so I am able to tell you the words that she (diviner) told me. Like how I was needed for her (diviner), you are needed for me, says mother. What is it that she (diviner) said?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

kadal vaNNar idhu seydhAr \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>She (daughter) <\/span><\/span>asked<\/span><\/span> \u2018<\/span><\/span>emperumAn thiruvarangam engE\u2019 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>(where is SrIrangam of emperumAn?). She (diviner) is <\/span><\/span>giving reply <\/span><\/span>referring to periya perumAL (<\/span><\/span>kadal vaNNar <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>(one like the ocean)). Here it (the word <\/span><\/span>vANNam<\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>) is not about the nature of the sea; it is about the colour. <\/span><\/span>She did not get involved in His nature (<\/span><\/span>svarUpam<\/span><\/span><\/i>), not His qualities; just upon seeing His beauty in front of her eyes, she fell for it. It seems He saw her once and embraced her; she got caught in that beauty; if one is involved in His nature, they would have to be involved in His qualities also which are inseparable from His nature; for those involved in His divine <\/span><\/span>form<\/span><\/span> that highlights both His true nature and His qualities, there is no need to go somewhere else. It is His divine form that creates interest; it is His divine form that is suitable for seeking shelter; what is enjoyable is also His divine form.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

idhu seydhAr \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b>\u2018theerA nOi seydhAn<\/span><\/span><\/i> [siriya thirumadal \u2013 52]<\/span><\/span>\u2019 <\/span><\/span><\/i>(He created incurable disease (of love)). <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

idhu \u2013<\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i> (this) \u2013 Like how one can identify <\/span><\/span>easily that it was due to drowning in water when seeing a fainted person<\/span><\/span>, her love disease is clear from looking at her. This is \u2018<\/span><\/span>dheiva nannOy <\/span><\/span><\/i>[thiruviruththam – 53]\u2019 (disease (of love) due to emperumAn). Since this disease occurred due to love towards emperumAn, this is a distinguished great disease. What the learned people yearn as the ultimate benefit (<\/span><\/span>purushArtham<\/span><\/span><\/i>), she got this disease of love by the grace of emperumAn without any effort from her side. As said in \u2018<\/span><\/span>janmAnthara sahasrEshu <\/span><\/span><\/i>[laghu \u2013 vishNu smruthi]\u2019, etc., (<\/span><\/span>For those who have gotten rid of their sins by doing gyAna and bhakthi yOga in thousand earlier births, love towards krishNan is born<\/span><\/span>), <\/span><\/span>the devotion reached by those after trying other means for thousands of years, she has got that love by the grace of emperumAn without expecting any effort from her. (Doesn\u2019t a <\/span><\/span>prapannan<\/span><\/span><\/i> also need bhakthi?) Whereas bhakthi is the ultimate reach for those who use other means like karma and gyAna yOgams, for a prapannan bhakthi is the first step of the attainments. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

kadal vaNNan idhu seydhAr \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>He showed His form and stole her form. (If it is one for the other, why be sad?) He showed His form that is like \u2018<\/span><\/span>Urdhvam mAsAnna jeevishyE<\/span><\/span><\/i> [Sri rAmAyaNam \u2013 sundhara kANdam – 38-65]\u2019 (I would not live after one month (if He does not come and save me before that)), and stole her form which is like \u2018<\/span><\/span>na jeevEyam kshaNamapi<\/span><\/span><\/i> [Sri rAmAyaNam \u2013 sundhara kANdam – 66-10]\u2019 (I will not live even for a moment when separated from her (said rAmA)). (Her form is greater than His).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

kAppAr ArE \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>Is it even possible to remove this love disease given by Him using your medicinal roots and magic words? (asks mother). (It is He who is the medicine and <\/span><\/span>manthram<\/span><\/span><\/i> (words)). The disease due to involving in worldly matters could be rectified by showing emperumAn related matters; the love disease due to emperumAn is congruent to the true nature of AthmA<\/a>, so it would be incurable till there is AthmA<\/a> (for ever).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

kadal vaNNar idhu seydhAr kAppAr ArE \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i>(Considering this whole phrase as that of the diviner instead)<\/span><\/span> <\/b><\/i>(<\/span><\/span>kadal<\/span><\/span><\/b><\/i> \u2013 ocean) Do we have an<\/span><\/span>other<\/span><\/span> opti<\/span><\/span>o<\/span><\/span>n tha<\/span><\/span>n<\/span><\/span> to leave it for the ocean, <\/span><\/span>what<\/span><\/span> the ocean has taken in? <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

kAppAr ArE <\/span><\/span><\/b>\u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/i>(another meaning for <\/span><\/span>kAppu<\/span><\/span><\/b> \u2013 prevent; <\/span><\/span>ArE<\/span><\/span><\/b> \u2013 who can) Is it possible for her (parakAla nAyaki) to prevent from taken in? Is it possible for you (mother)? Is it possible for anybody else? (No). If the fence itself destroys the paddy field, it is the fence that would have to save the field; is it possible for the field to save itself?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

(In siriya thirumadal too periyavAchchAn piLLai<\/a> shows this meaning for \u2018<\/span><\/span>kArAr kadal vaNNan pin pOna nenjamum vArAdhE ennai marandhadhu thAn\u2019 <\/span><\/span><\/i>(my mind that went behind the One <\/span><\/span>having <\/span><\/span>the colour of ocean has forgotten me and not returned (from the sea)).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

By this, the inner meaning shown are the following \u2013 (1) emperumAn got AzhvAr<\/a> without expecting anything on AzhvAr<\/a>\u2019s side; (2) Due to that, great devotion (<\/span><\/span>parama bhakthi<\/span><\/span><\/i>) was born in AzhvAr<\/a>; (3) because of that, AzhvAr<\/a> lost interest in other matters; (4) One would get true knowledge based on AchAryan\u2019s teachings (\u2018through diviner\u2019).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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SrI:\u00a0 SrImathE SatakOpAya nama:\u00a0 SrImathE rAmAnujAya nama:\u00a0 SrImath varavaramunayE nama: Full Series << Previous pAsuram << Part 2 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 krupAmAthra prasannAcharyAr mattuvikki, etc \u2013 She having such hair of head that would attract and trouble Him, Oh now it is she who is suffering instead of Him. Only in righteous war (Her beauty getting felt … Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,39],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-24677","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-irandam-ayiram","category-thirunedunthandakam"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24677","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=24677"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24677\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=24677"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=24677"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/divyaprabandham.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=24677"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}